Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Overheard at an advising office

I randomly declared Electrical Engineering when I applied to UT Dallas and they made me go in today to switch my major. Apparently they force students to do a degree audit where you go in and lay out your course schedule, but EE wanted no part of a postbacc, premed student who has no intention of taking a single EE class. So I was introduced to my new advisor for Biology and these are snippets from the half hour I spent there:



ADV: [ looking through my academic history ] Stanford. Where is that?

ME: [ are you kidding me? ] California, also [ in addition to SJSU ]



ADV: [ clearly trying to help me get my stuff done ] Have you heard of the Stanford story?

ME: [ what the heck is the story about Stanford? The Play? ] Um, what story?

ADV: [ appalled that I couldn't read her mind ] The story! [ my paraphrasing ] The founder was a rich guy who showed up to Harvard dressed casually asking how much it cost to erect a building in his son's memory. The son had passed away but had attended Harvard. The folks at Harvard thought he couldn't afford it and he started Stanford as a response.

ME: [ bored to tears ] Um, yes, Stanford was a rich fellow from the railroads. I haven't heard of that story though. [ Can we get on with this? ]

Note: this story is of course urban legend. Leland Stanford Jr passed away at the age of 16 so did not attend Harvard. [source]



ADV: [ looking through my transfer credit ] Now this is going to take a long time to match your transfer credit to our classes. I know you said you're not planning to finish the degree, but we need to make sure you have all the prerequisites for the classes you want to take. For example, I don't see Calculus I & II on here.

ME: [ not seeing how Calculus had anything to do with my classes ] Yeah, I AP'd out of calculus at Stanford and then took a quarter of multivariable calculus at the end to fulfill my CS requirement.

ADV: [ thoughtful ] Well, multivariable calculus is after calculus I & II, but...
[ incredulous ] They gave you AP credit for both Calculus I & II? At UT Dallas, you only get credit for Calculus I. Did you take some sort of departmental exam?

ME: [ um... ] No, they gave me credit for it.

ADV: [ trying to be helpful ] Our computer won't let you sign up for a class which has Calculus as a prerequisite because I can't find Calculus I & II on your transcript, so we'd need to get approval for something like that.

ME: [ you just said multivariable is after calc I & II, right?? ] ...

ADV: [ thinking I understood perfectly ] This is what I mean when I say this will be tricky to match up!

ME: [ is there a wall I can bang my head against? ]



[ after I finally got the 2 minute form filled out to change majors ]

ADV: [ satisfied with a day's work ] You'll have to make another appointment in the future if you want to sit down and do a degree audit. But I'm afraid you'll be missing quite a few classes.

ME: [ what happened to the part where you understood I didn't want the degree ]

ADV: [ continuing ] You'd think that we'd be able to match up a lot of the transfer credit. I mean, it's Stanford! An Ivy League school!

ME: [ okay, somewhat understandable, but not really for an undergrad advisor. the ivy league is a sports conference in the northeast. we're pac-10! ] ...

ADV: [ insightfully ] But there still might be extra classes to take. It's a state law that you would need to complete this set of requirements to receive a degree here. For example, you'll need to take US & Texas History.

ME: [ Texas history. Why am I not surprised? ] ...



Hopefully they'll still let me register for classes in 6 weeks, but somehow I'm not that optimistic that it will be a smooth process. Why can't they just let you take whatever classes you want?

8 Comments:

At September 18, 2007 10:36 PM, Blogger rooth said...

what a funny story. is that lady retarded?

 
At September 19, 2007 6:47 AM, Blogger Beth said...

Ha! It was as if you were speaking with my SAS advisor. "Where is Providence?" "It's the capitol of Rhode Island." "Rhode Island?"

 
At September 19, 2007 10:15 AM, Blogger hubert said...

heh, i had 4 counselors in 4 years at SAS. the last one called me on the phone before senior year, concerned that i had signed up for too many AP classes. =O

 
At September 19, 2007 10:57 AM, Blogger Chang Kim said...

Hurry up and come back to California. Texas sounds annoying. :)

 
At September 19, 2007 4:37 PM, Blogger Andrew said...

Look at you, with your Stanford Masters degree under your arm, thinking you can just waltz in and take whatever you want. Who do you think you are? You're gonna take Texas History and like it!

 
At September 19, 2007 11:52 PM, Blogger Gerlad said...

i already used up all of my good comments during our chat, so i'll just say this- what a dumb whore!

 
At September 20, 2007 11:35 AM, Blogger shiuming said...

Yeah, I wonder how are you going to pass time till 2009? Perhaps you should be registered under EE or political science ;-)Have you found Andy Grove?

 
At September 23, 2007 1:49 PM, Blogger Beth said...

Ha! That person was obviously new to SAS. I had two. Two that I try my best to forget.

 

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